Its also not sending emails in the chosen font. Some of the fonts are displayed on the other client properly and some are not even though its the same machine so same fonts are installed

Are you referring to HTML messages or plain text? Fonts are not part of message with plain text messages. For plain text messages, Thunderbird displays them in the font you selected in tools>preferences>general.

HTML only

can you post a screenshot of an incoming message after pressing Cntl and U (to show source) and also one of a sent message , showing source. I don't need to see the headers, just the portion showing message portion.

Also, remember that Thunderbird does NOT send HTML unless there is an HTML component, such as bold, italics, font color. Otherwise, it sends plain text. Further, even if you send in a specific font, if the receives don't have the font on their pc, an alternate font will be shown.

OK Attached are:

1) What the email looks like when it is sent from Outlook 2) The source code when its sent from outlook 3) what it looks like when received in Thunder 4) Source code when received in thunder

All font color is dark blue, not default black

Image upload feature is not working and no option to upload text so here is the source code as it came out of outlook

<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"><meta name="Generator" content="Microsoft Word 14 (filtered medium)"><style><!-- /* Font Definitions */ @font-face {font-family:Calibri; panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;} @font-face {font-family:"Lucida Handwriting"; panose-1:3 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1;} @font-face {font-family:"Bahnschrift SemiBold SemiConden"; panose-1:2 11 5 2 4 2 4 2 2 3;} @font-face {font-family:Forte; panose-1:3 6 9 2 4 5 2 7 2 3;} @font-face {font-family:"Rockwell Extra Bold"; panose-1:2 6 9 3 4 5 5 2 4 3;} /* Style Definitions */ p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal {margin:0in; margin-bottom:.0001pt; font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";} a:link, span.MsoHyperlink {mso-style-priority:99; color:#0563C1; text-decoration:underline;} a:visited, span.MsoHyperlinkFollowed {mso-style-priority:99; color:#954F72; text-decoration:underline;} span.EmailStyle17 {mso-style-type:personal-compose; font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"; color:#002060;} .MsoChpDefault {mso-style-type:export-only; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";} @page WordSection1 {size:8.5in 11.0in; margin:1.0in 1.0in 1.0in 1.0in;} div.WordSection1 {page:WordSection1;} --></style>

There are no attachments. I think they need to be jpg or png or other graphic images. Please also include for a message you send.

And here is the source code after it is received in Thunder

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From: "WWP - Wyoming Office" <[email protected]> To: "Jonathan Ratner" <[email protected]> References: <[email protected]> In-Reply-To: <[email protected]> Subject: FW: TEST Date: Sun, 8 May 2022 07:29:23 -0600 Message-ID: <[email protected]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0012_01D862AD.5A0B8BC0" X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AQHf+v+3PDU18gifYRw46UZ17tdiza0FySqQ Content-Language: en-us X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: 00000000D66B52D8A7E808488C006EA02F30FD48E4520301

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Rockwell Extra Bold

Forte

Bahn

Times New Roman put into bold

Rockwell Extra Bold put into Italics

Jonathan B Ratner

WWP - Wyoming Office

PO Box 171

Bondurant, WY 82922

Tel: 877-746-3628

Fax: 208-475-4702

Speaking for that which cannot speak

and part 2 of it as it was longer than 1000

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they are saved in both jpg and png

But neither will upload. When you select the file you just get a spinning wheel that never uploads the tiny file

Okay, let's simplify this. Send me a short HTML message to davidtbirdhelp at gmail dot com and I will reply with an HTML message. I will keep it short. When you receive it, please post the source. That should resolve this. I do not monitor that address normally, but will check in next 10 minutes or so.

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Message-ID: <[email protected]> Date: Sun, 8 May 2022 11:14:47 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:91.0) Gecko/20100101

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Subject: Re: Thunder version Content-Language: en-US To: Jonathan Ratner <[email protected]> References: <[email protected]> From: david kirk <[email protected]> In-Reply-To: <[email protected]>

This is a multi-part message in MIME format.

Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Thanks for sending, This is also *HTML* message. Please post source received.

On 5/8/2022 9:54 AM, Jonathan Ratner wrote: > *This version is from Thunder (Rockwell is listed as uninstalled even > though its on the same machine as the outlook version and is installed *

Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8">

Thanks for sending, This is also <font size="4" color="#000080">HTML</font> message. Please post source received.

This version is from Thunder (Rockwell is listed as uninstalled even though its on the same machine as the outlook version and is installed

Please post a screenshot of how my message appeared in inbox, Thanks,

Sent via email as "Add Images" process not working

Thanks. That confirms that HTML messages are being shown properly, so there is something else involved if your friend's messages are not displaying as HTML. Earlier, you showed source of message from your friend, but now how it appears in inbox. Please do a screenshot of that. My hope is it signifies something.

Just sent the 2 printscreen via email

All this stuff is coming from the same machine.

The only difference is the client used.

I am needing to find a replacement for Outlook as the older versions dont support OAuth, so testing out Thunder as the replacement

My interpretation is that Thunderbird is working properly, and you are testing it against HTML created by Word 14. What you have sent to me works as designed. Send an HTML message to yourself and I think there will be no problem. HTML works everywhere for TB users; otherwise, we would have thousands of complaints. The TEST message you sent earlier was properly displayed as HTML.

Check email one more time and hopefully we are OK