Following latest update to this beta version java has failed completely. I noticed when I wanted to access a secure site which uses a Java plugin to start a remote desktop. On starting, it should ask if I want to run the Juniper Setup Applet, which is a Java applet. I dont get this any more on 41.0b1. I have a backup machine running 40.0 and comparing the production and backup machine I note that the update to 41 has stripped out several addons including the Java Platform SE 8 U51. On the backup machine running 40.0 the site works correctly and the java test sites noted below work correctly. Reinstalling Java didnt fix it and starting Firefox in safe mode didnt fix it. The site was already specified in the add-ons and popup exceptions. Trying to verify Java at https://www.java.com and at www.test-java.com both show that Java is not installed or enabled whereas in fact it is - it is now just completely blocked in Firefox. On my backup machine, I didnt manage to stop the auto update to 41.0b1 and once that had happended Java was broken on this machine too. Some security is good but at this rate I might as well turn off the PC for complete security! Any ideas? 1. The update seems to