unable to send or receive email after Thunderbird update
Hi,
I‘m suddenly unable to send or receive mail after Thunderbird updated to 60.7.0 (32-bit) on Windows 7. I have tried using another mail client which is working fine and have also tried disabling my firewall (Comodo 12.0.0.6818). I’m using a gmail address (POP) with my ISP’s SMTP server (Plusnet UK).
Any assistance appreciated.
Thanks
Troubleshooting Info below:
Application Basics
Name: Thunderbird Version: 60.7.0 Build ID: 20190517095026
Update Channel: release User Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.7.0 OS: Windows_NT 6.1
Multiprocess Windows: 0/0 (Disabled) Web Content Processes: Stylo: content = true (enabled by default), chrome = true (enabled by default) Enterprise Policies: Google Location Service Key: Missing Google SafeBrowsing Key: Missing Mozilla Location Service Key: Missing Safe Mode: false
Mail and News Accounts
account2:
INCOMING: account2, , (none) Local Folders, plain, passwordCleartext
account3:
INCOMING: account3, , (pop3) pop.gmail.com:995, SSL, passwordCleartext
OUTGOING: , relay.plus.net:25, plain, none, true
account4:
INCOMING: account4, , (pop3) mail.plus.net:110, plain, passwordCleartext
OUTGOING: , relay.plus.net:25, plain, none, true
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All Replies (5)
I don't know if it is the sole problem, apart from the firewall possibly blocking the updated version of TB, but I wonder why you have the gmail account sending through the unsecure plus.net smtp server. The recommended settings are pop.gmail.com on port 995 for the incoming server, SSL/TLS connection security, authentication = OAUth2, User name = email address; smtp.gmail.com on port 587 for the outgoing server, STARTTLS connection security, authentication = OAUth2, User name = email address.
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Using_Gmail_with_Thunderbird_and_Mozilla_Suite
Thanks sfhowes,
My ISP, Plusnet, advises this on their website. I had assumed that other servers would be blocked?
I'm unable to find where they say you can't send on their network through other smtp servers, but I would be surprised, not to mention disappointed, if that were the case. Besides, their outgoing (and incoming) servers have no connection security, which makes their accounts practically unusable if you're on a non-plus.net network, e.g. on a mobile device; their recommendation to use webmail in that case is a poor option.
It would probably make more sense to add your plus.net account 4 to your gmail account in gmail settings, Accounts & Import, and then send from the plus account through the (secure) gmail smtp.
Thanks for your help, I’ll give the gmail smtp server a try as I do use a mobile device with this and it works fine when I’m using the WiFi so no reason why this shouldn’t work. Still can’t understand why it’s working with another client but not Thunderbird though.
If it works with another client but not TB, you might have a 3rd-party security program that's compatible with the first but not TB. The best way to test this would be to start Windows in safe mode and see if it makes any difference to TB's performance. Email and SSL-connection scanning are two things that often make AV programs degrade TB operations.